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Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:02 pm
by Enraged
I like your mount, simple yet functional.

As for your extruder calibration, you should tweak it for your own machine. I found this guide very helpful: http://richrap.blogspot.ca/2012/01/slic ... s-and.html

Extruder steps/mm measured and validated

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:13 pm
by flickerfly
Thanks Enraged, I just did the mark and measure of 30mm of plastic mentioned in that link you posted while using Bart's measurements and it seems good. This makes me think I have some other setting that is potentially a problem. I just don't know what. Maybe I should start looking around Slic3r.

Yeah, that mount gets the job done for now. It's real solid and I like a bit of wood in the mix.

EDIT: Hmm... it probably helps to give it the right filament size... 1.75, not 3mm. I should have looked at the slic3r settings sooner.

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Sun Jun 09, 2013 7:13 pm
by kbob
I'd like to see a nicely carved hardwood carriage. That would be the bee's knees.

Z-wobble in my prints

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:24 pm
by flickerfly
It looks like I'm dealing with some Z-wobble in my prints. I held up the prints to the threads and it seems pretty clear that the threads correspond to the wobble. I have the ATI kit which provides the Z-wobble mod that should help remove some of that. I've adjusted the rods so they don't bounce around much, just a little. They are in a flexible coupler. I'm not sure what else to look at.

Here is a picture of my last configuration cube taken from the side.
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More pics of the same print:

It also looks like I'm smooshing the beginning of the print against the bed too much. I figure that is just a setting in slicer to move the initial layer up a touch. I think I saw something about that and maybe also adjust the setting in slicer that controls how much plastic is extruded to a slightly higher value.

Anyone have some other suggestions about where I need to tweak or what I could do to improve that Z wobble.

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:05 pm
by Gadroc
I have a set of the Z Wobble improvements that I just took back off my machine as they didn't fix anything and actually seem to made things a little worse at times. I have a set of acme threaded rods in route to see if that helps, as one of my existing rods is bent more than I'd like.

You may not be smooshing to much to as some slicers have a feature called "Brim" which will extend the first layer out to help prevent curling. Check to see that is enabled before tweaking hardware. I'd highly recommend printing and installing one of the Z adjust devices to help quick adjust 0 position.

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:24 pm
by flickerfly
Gadroc, did you have an ATI kit that you're replacing the rods on? When I first looked at them, I thought them okay.

Gadroc wrote:I'd highly recommend printing and installing one of the Z adjust devices to help quick adjust 0 position.


Can you point me to one? I found this: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:52388
The ATI kit comes with an equivalent of this: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:42260

Edit: actually, I think the ATI equivalent is more like this: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:42658

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:58 pm
by rickmellor
Not sure if related, but the Hadron I recently assembled came from ATI and I had to get a replacement for one of the Z rods. The threads were damaged and would not mate to the Z nuts.

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:02 pm
by rickmellor
flickerfly wrote:Can you point me to one?


I believe Gadroc was referring to something like this:

http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:54154

It'll allow you to precisely set your Z stop to prevent dragging the head across the bed.

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:10 pm
by flickerfly
Oh, yeah. I was thinking I want to do that also more flexible z-stop. It just hadn't drifted up my priority list. It would be much better than the frustration of setting it now which is very time consuming. Thanks for clarifying rickmellor.

Re: Flickerfly's ORD Bot Hadron Build Log

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:56 am
by Gadroc
Rick is correct in that's what I was referring to. Ironically I think the z wobble is better on mine after switching back to the original attached nut block.