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HV connections

PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:50 pm
by pixpop
Hi, I'm new here. Just getting back into a project that I put on hold a couple of years ago.

My current question is: What's the best method for attaching HV leads to the electrodes of the laser tube?

Re: HV connections

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:30 am
by bdring
Hey pixpop...welcome to the forum,

I would have loved to have had a magic solution, like a connector thingy, but here is what I did. The electrode on the tube was a stiff, small dia. rod. The HV wire was also quite stiff. I read that soldering was bad and could compromise the seal, so I avoided that. I put the HV wire along the electrode so both were in parallel. I then took the smallest gauge bare wire I could find (like 36awg) and "lashed" the two together. I then covered the connection with silicone fusing tape. This stuff is great. It is excellent for HV and makes a high strength seal.

I hope your tube is still good. I hear they don't have the best shelf life.

Keep us posted on you progress.

http://www.rescuetape.com
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Re: HV connections

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:09 pm
by pixpop
I did find a connector that I think will work, but haven't tried it yet. I'll post some pictures of it. I wanted a connector so it would be easier to disconnect & reconnect tubes.

I like the fusing tape idea. Never heard of that before. I'm going to get some and experiment.

I'm not worried about the tube. I bought it too soon, before I was ready for it. At the time I was unaware of the limited shelf life issue. It's only a 15 Watt tube, so no big loss. Maybe it will work well enough to test my power supply.

A poster on CNCZone indicated that it is OK to use a power resistor as a dummy load for testing, so that's also useful info. He shows a picture of a 200K wire wound resistor that was recommended in place of an 80 Watt tube.

See here: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95634

Thanks for the info.

Re: HV connections

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:11 pm
by pixpop
Here's the connector I was planning to use, unless I find something better:
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It's quite high quality. Both ends are open. The side with the little hole is for the wire. The other side is meant to grab onto a metal post sticking out of a circuit board. It has phosphor-bronze metal fingers inside that actively clamp onto the post. It's a crimp termination for the wire, but I would probably solder it.

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About to connect...

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This is the point where the fingers inside just begin to grip. At this point, it will no longer fall off if you tip it upside down.

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Here it is seated all the way down. At this point it is quite a strong bond, and will not come loose accidentally.


The connector is made by Mill-Max, and their part number is:
0368-0-33-01-13-27-10-0

I obtained them from Mouser. The Mouser part number is 575-036800

Here's the data sheet. It shows other connectors that might work as well.
http://www.mill-max.com/images/products/pdf/159N.pdf

Of course I have no idea how this will stand up to repeated temperature cycles, but I expect it will be OK.

Re: HV connections

PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:45 pm
by bdring
The connector looks good. I have a lot of MILL_MAX connectors, but they were all a little small. That sounds perfect.

It sounds like you have a plan for the load. We use power loads at work for our HV stuff. Laser tubes usually have a start voltage and a run voltage so I did not want to guess at an appropriate load. They must fire all power supplies up at the factory on a load, so it will probably work.